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WHY ITS GOOD SOME VILLAINS GOT REFORMED AND WHY ITS GOOD SOME OTHERS DID NOT.



I think this whole "Freak out"-thing the Community is having right now about the Return and Reformation of some Villains in the Show is a bit exaggerated...
Just because three villains became good, doesn't mean they are going to reform EVERY kind of villain now.
Night Mare Moon had to turn back to normal because she is the Royal Princess of the Night, Celestias Sister. And even if Celestia could have continue bringing Day and Night by herself, Equestria needs to stay in balance with the two of them.  Everybody loves Luna and the first episode would have been weird if they just KILLED Night Mare Moon. But Luna is not the point because nobody ever compared about her Transformation. But still, Luna is also a Villain who got reformed.

Trixies return was already planned after her very first Episode and for me her return was nothing surprising because she didn't really learn her lesson the last time. Now she did and its better that way.
Why the Fans are now complaining about her Return, I do not understand because everybody was wishing for this.
Fans are freaking out because they fear Hasbro is going to produce any kind of Fan-fiction of the Community, but to be honest you should now better. And you could be happy about the strong bond between Community and Creators we have, and trust them that they now what is good for the show.

Now lets go on with the next villain on my list...Discord.

Discord is the most well written and interesting Villain in the whole Show, and lets be honest, we all screamed and cried when he was defeated. well most of us. Im not talking to the Haters out there ;) His Return is the best thing they've done in my opinion because his Character is just too good to let him disappear in his prison of stone. And I think the new Episode "Keep Calm and flutter on" didn't ruin his Character. Yes, the episode was a bit rushed but it still showed a new great chapter of Discords life he is going to live now. And his character will just become much deeper after this episode. And we all will get the thing we always wanted after his first Appearance: MORE Appereances of him! :D

Chrysalis is not the kind of Villain who ever will become good. She is an insect. And its her nature to feed her Changelings with the Love of other Ponies. You can't change her nature and I don't see why somepony would like to change it. Please don't try to compare her with Discord because you can't. Changing Discords ways are another thing, because Discord is just a big chaotic Troll with a strong Magic he uses for his own delight. He didn't do anything because he had to, like Chrysalis who really needs the Love of other Ponies to stay alive, Discord did all these things because he had fun doing it. Thats it.

Sombra is the most uninteresting Villain I think. Thats just my Opinion, I know a bunch of Fans are interested in his Backstory and in his Return, I am not. Sombra is dead, (some people say he's alive but I doubt that. He. EXPLODED.) and the Chrystal Empire is living in Peace and it deserves it. I don't want it to be out of Balance again and a return of Sombra would just be pointless now that Cadence rules over it.
I am not saying he is a bad Villain. I am just saying that it would not make sense to let him return. because he is dead.

Just wanted to share my Opinion with you Guys. Calm down.
I am a very critical Person when it comes to Cartoons, and MLP FiM is a really well written show.
Trust me. They know what they do.
Just sharing my Opinion here because the Community seems to be pretty scared and over-reacting now.
What do you think about this?
Share your opinion with me!

(Ignore this Texts-Section, I didn't know where to put this...and I did not want to make a jorunal because nobodys reading them)

However, just comment if you have an opinion.
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DragoonDraconian Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I like and agree with this Except for one, Sombra. I think he should return once, for the sake of knowing who he is properly. Also I understand what you saying he exploded, so he himself may not return, but I think a pony mind-controlled by him would be good because he DID have a lot of potential. But overall I like ths
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aldodger Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013
I also think Sunset(Shimmer) should've been properly reformed and went back to Equestria to become a pony again :(
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DiscordantPrincess Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2013
Yes. Yes to all of this, especially the parts about Discord. Discord is my favorite character on the show (not just my favorite villain, my favorite character PERIOD), and reforming him was a really cool idea, because now WE CAN GET TO SEE MORE OF HIM! SQUEEEEEEEEEE!
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you so much! 8D Glad so many agree with me! ^w^
And I have to agree with you too, he is also my favorite Character everrrr <33
MORE DISCORD IN THE FUTURE!!! 8'DD YAAAAAY!!!! :squee:
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DiscordantPrincess Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
This we need...MOAR DISCORD! Tell Hasbro we wants Discord toys (well at least I do!)
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MillennialDan Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2013  Hobbyist
As I've commented elsewhere, Discord is an extremely volatile and chaotic being (obviously). His changes might have seemed sudden for a normal person, but not for him.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, wow you're right! When it comes to Discord it doesn't matter what happens but everything makes perfect sense for him :D
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Sl9086 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
Well, i foun interesting that discord got reformed, as it was not something i expected but i give credits to writers to try somethign different. Trixie was mostly in wrong path but not a bad one, tough if Crhysalis ever reforms.....she and the changelings would need another form to feed from love but without restoreting to tricks...SOmbra however....i imagine him more as a void of hatred and the negative feelings....wether he returns or not..it doesn't change the fact he ruined lifes of many ponies..had the nerve of ruling with iron fist and inspiring fear....DIscord was more trickster than pure evil......so the idea of reforming sombra....is practically null for me,as he really did not show, neither in backstory nor in present..any reedeeming quality or a good reason... but that's just my opinion.
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Jyazz Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think Discord's reforming is part of the "Balance of the universe" kind of thing similar to Luna. There is no Harmony without Chaos.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
How did I forgot to mention that? D8
It is SO TRUE! Even Discord does his part for a Balance, even if he might not think so. Nature is best example for it. If you look more detailed at a forest you will see that it is a complete mess. But this chaos is necessary for the Forest to survive.
A plantage is so much weaker in an organized Formation. If one Tree gets sick, nobody can stop an epidemic. Sooo Discord, as you can see Equestria needs you ;P
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Jyazz Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Eeyup.
Whoa, I just gave a mind blowing reason to Discord's reforming.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yes you did! :D
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Jyazz Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
OMG!
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chocolatemagma Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013
Personally I view the reason for Discord's reform fits into his character. He has shown he honestly does not care at all about how others feel. In his mind he is all that matters, which is why he creates chaotic situations or "games" to entertain himself. So when he received something he never had before, in this case a friend its like a new toy. overall its just something he does not want to loose because it is his. AS you can see at the end of the episode he isn't exactly ecstatic about this new reformed business.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, thats a completely new Point of View! How did I not see that...it makes so much sense!
Anyway, isn't it unbelievable how many different Views you can find about Discord? And somehow they are all fitting his personality in a way...I can just hope we will get some more Episodes about him to find out whats going on in his head ;)
Thanks for sharing your Opinion! :D
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chocolatemagma Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
One shutters to imagine what inhuman (or inpony depending on your species) lie within that mind. What dreams of utter uncontrollable chaos.........or maybe its just a nice pick nick with some love songs honestly who knows, he is discord for a reason. Although I wouldn't mind a backstory episode.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Team Fortress Reference? xDD Oh God...I love you now :XD:
Yeah, a Backstory Episode would be epic.
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lainwiththedevil Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013
agreed.
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jisowthefleetway Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
there's a differences between nature and choice, its in a changelings nature to feed on love but its a changeling choice as to how he/she gets it, Queen Chrysalis chose to attack Canterlot and it cost her dearly, should she had chosen to be good and not evil and ask for her race to live in harmony with the ponies then the ponies would have given there love freely to them and avoid confrontation

and King Sombra, do you have any idea how many villain got blown up and still came back from the dead, I highly doubt that hes is the exception, yes they need good explanation for him to come back this is a would of magic so Resurrection is extremely possible

as for turning them good, as I said, if Chrysalis learns that you can get what you want by been nice she'll do well, as for Sombra, he could learn how life is more valuable then power and that its better to be loved then feared

but that's just me, if you don't like it, fine, just don't be a dick about it
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I would never be harsh to anybody.
And I think you are having a good point about the Changelings.
Sorry if my writing seemed to be a bit aggressive, but I just wanted to make people clearly listen to me.
Thanks for sharing your opinion! :D
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jisowthefleetway Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
glade to hear it, just be more open minded about others characters and with whys they can go
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am open minded, but this text wasn't supposed to look on the theories, its more about the few facts we got about the Characters.
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Melindaington Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
A quick thing about Sombra, we've already learned that he can regenerate from his horn which was in tact and in fact seemed to draw attention to itself specifically by flying to the off-center of the screen(seen here [link] ). It's very possible that unless they seal his horn away that he could come back.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
but wouldn't his return be really pointless? Sorry, I don't want to upset the fans...but I just don't understand! :c
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Melindaington Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Oh, unless they have a good reason to bring him back I don't think they should. But the fact is that he could.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, I guess thats true :)
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UMSAuthorLava Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do wonder about Sombra, though...There's so much about him and Cadance's lineage we're still unsure about. What made Sombra's heart go darker than night? What if he was the darkness split off from the original's heart? (I'd vouch that original to be the Crystal King of that time, and Cadance being his descendant)

Still, we have to leave such decision to the writers.

And it is a valuable lesson, what Keep Calm and Flutter On provided - some people may act like they don't care about having friends, but when they receive friendship, they can tell how good it feels deep down in their hearts.
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WhiteSylver Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Student
I agree, I love Discord too and was happy to see him anyhow.

This is nicely written and argumented BUT even if it's not a piece of artistic writing per se, I'd like to see better grammar and the use of capitals distracts me..
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Im sorry. You know, Im from Germany and I didn't really make a serious spell check.
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WhiteSylver Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Student
That's ok, I'm just saying :)
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Logtut Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Only makes me think exactly how powerful Sombra must have been. He didn't get a chance to really do anything.
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Nadile Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
Although I don't exactly like the fact Discord went good soo quickly, I don't mind it as long as he comes back more after this episode and does keep doing some sort of silly things, just without making other ponies miserable.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thats just the Plan >:3
Discord all the Way for sure Guuurl... B-)
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Roxanne13579 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd say there's gonna be a fan-backlash no matter what happened x3
I mean, I think everybody already knew that Discord was going to be reformed. Then what was everybody expecting? That they'd leave Discord free reign as a villain or that they turned him back to stone saying 'we tried'? x3
Personally, I think this was a great episode. I mean, we got lots of Discord and lots of Fluttershy, who really has come a long way since the first episode. She's learned a lot from her experiences with Iron Will and was able to stand up to Discord here, people!

Besides, having Discord say 'Friendship is Magic' was just priceless XD
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Some people seriously thought he would reign again and wouldn't learn anything. Stupid, People are stupid xDD
And I agree :33 It was a great Episode and one of the best of Fluttershy! The Character Development of this show is genius! GENIUS! 8D
"Common...say it!"
"...friendshipismagic..." xDD
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Roxanne13579 Featured By Owner Jan 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
XD yeah, oh well.
Yeah :D Fluttershy ftw! ^^
XDXD Best line ever to be uttered by a villain!
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lauani Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree with you :3
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DestroX71689 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I quite disagree with Chrysalis because if you think about it in terms of doing it because she had to, you could still argue that they deep down don't want it to be this way. It seems like something that doesn't need to be changed in terms of character. You are then talking about changing the way of life for an entire colony of creatures. I suppose that what they go through is some sort of curse. They do what they do because they really know no alternative. That method of survival seems way too cruel to be anything but a curse. If not it's an incredibly sad and pitiful life to behold. I'll agree that Chrysalis is much more direct when it comes to being offensive but still, her crime is destroying relationships... and attacking Celestia which was self defense but I digress in the fact that she's simply more powerful in that area. Still, it could be argued that they don't want it to be like this and that they do it simply because it must be done to live.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I really respect your opinion and I know the theories about a Curse lasting on the Queen, but I had to go on with the few informations we got from the two-part episode.
Who knows what Hasbro got in coming episodes for us, maybe an Episode about exploring their territory, I don't know.
But I don't know if a return of the Queen would be so great...
well well, its just my opinion.
Thanks for sharing!
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DestroX71689 Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think of it in terms of this. I know the show isn't gonna last forever. Who knows, it might last as long as the Simpsons though. idk, I highly doubt that. My point is, I love Discord, and I love Chrysalis. If I felt she were truly irredeemable, I'd want to see her for nothing more than a recurring villain, and I'd get psyched for her to show up and wreck some shit before getting cast back into the darkness which if for whatever reason, they explore her, and it turns out shes nothing but a total bitch, well, I'd still look forward to her. Her situation is, what I believe to be a trend in this show of having loosely sympathetic villains. I think Discord was, and unless they proved him to be more like the Joker then say, the Cheshire Cat in regards to his confusing and chaotic nature, than by all means, just make him a recurring villain and I'll be happy with that. I'm glad his conflict has gotten resolved and I hope that for the most part he doesn't degrade to a pointless side character. I hope he at least continues his pranks. I do want to see his past explored. I want to know what happened to his race if there was any. I want to know where he came from. This could go on and on. Hell they could probably make a whole movie based on the possibilities, same for Chrysalis and her people. Were they originally ponies? Who knows. Maybe like a thousand years ago or whatever, Chrysalis did something to piss some witch off and there was a curse put on her. I know that's vague but its something to start with. I want to see a better life for the changelings at some point. It doesn't mean they have to undergo some sort of hokey revelation, like Discord. Maybe something can be discovered about them to resolve their conflict before the end of the show so some fan doesn't have to write it in (although judging from fan-fiction that could either be really awesome or really hackneyed and lame). They don't have to not be changelings anymore, I'm just hoping for some reasonable compromise. If they don't want to come up with a resolution, just make her evil ad make it done and over with. To me that's kinda the one thing I thought was fresh about Sombra, despite him being so underwritten. Who knows, maybe it was their plan from the start to make him kinda lame so people wouldn't become very attached to him when they killed him off.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Probably. I mean, they can't let any villain stay xD And at least he was good enough to be SOME sort of serious danger for the Empire.
Well well, I guess it will always stay a mystery where he came from ect.
But i guess he was just a normal but powerful Unicorn at the beginning who tasted the Dark Magic and ate too much Chrystals ;)
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ShadowKing1988 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Very nice take on this. If you don't mind, I'd like to add in my own two cents on this:

First, I agree with the paragraph about Nightmare Moon. I think, though, that NM was not so much a villain independent of Princess Luna, but rather a part of Luna's psyche that took on its own manifestation. In other words, she kind of had a split personality, with her jealous self (NM) being the dominant personality, but the other ponies (and Princess Celestia) wanted to bring back the original Luna by helping her overcome her jealousy.

The other thing is kind of minor, but I never really considered Trixie to be a "villain" - more like a guest character with a bad attitude. However, I'll let it stand for argument's sake, and you again got it right about her becoming reformed in her second appearance.

One last thing: I too feel like today's episode could have gone on longer. I think the producers decided that if they did make this a two-parter, though, not only would it have made for a rather complicated plot, but I think they prefer two-part episodes to be season pilots/finales. That, and maybe Mr. de Lancie doesn't have enough room in his schedule to do too many guest appearances as Discord.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, you're right, Trixie is more of a guest character, but I wanted to talk about her too because her return seemed to be a really big deal.
And its true, it should be longer but would be too complicated for a two-part epsiode. I think it would have become perfect with a length of just 5-10 minutes longer, but we all know its not always easy to make the best out of 20 Minutes.
Thanks for sharing! :D
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Jevester Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I really liked the episode not only because discord became good but that its comfirmed that we'll be seeing him appear in more episodes :D
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
yeah, isn't that just wonderful? :D
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elyet123 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree, plus discord reforming is teaching kids a valuable lesson about what the whole show revolves around, the magic of friendship.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Exactly. Most of the Kids shows were just fine with imprisoning somebody like "Try to hide the Problem away and everythings fine." which is not.
There are the types of Villains who will never learn and those types who never experienced Friendship.
And the Moral of the Episode is a really great one for the kids :)
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fel03 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist
The reform of discord reminds me "the grinch"
I mean you can see the moment when the heart of discord grows 3 sizes.
[link] / [link] 19:22

But what I didn't like about this episode was he change to quickly, I think Hasbro should have made a double episode to appreciate better the change of discord.
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EleanorTopsie Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Like I just said, a little bit rushed, if it would be 10 minutes longer the Episode would have been perfect to me ;)
And maybe we will see more about his way of changes in another Episode in the future. How he's doing in Canterlot and what exactly he's doing and stuff.
There are so many possibilities now! :D
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JerraianKing Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope Discord will be back again and AGAIN :love: I want to see him more and more now that he's not only reformed but he has a whole new life to live :)
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